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5/21/2009 Yet more Gemini demos dissectedSome more Gemini demos have appeared on the BI Blog, with more new Gemini features revealed, so let’s step through them and see what we can see…
One last point prompted by all the relational database-related terms we’ve seen: if I was a pure SQL Server relational database guy, with no interest in Analysis Services, I’d still like to get my hands on Gemini and use it server side if it’s this quick. Which goes back to a point I’ve made before in the past that if Analysis Services could be used inside SQL Server as an invisible layer to speed up the execution of data warehouse/BI style TSQL queries, in the same way as Oracle OLAP can be, it would be very cool. Just think of that working with Madison, in fact… Comments (7)![]() Charlie Maitland - May 22, 2009 One thing that was conspicuous by its absence is any mention of hierarchies and how they will manage these and if they can get Excel to cope with ragged hierarchies. Charlie Chris Webb - May 22, 2009 Good point Charlie - at the moment it doesn't seem like there's any support for SSAS user hierarchies at all - everything seems to be single-level attribute hierarchies. Jamie Thomson - May 22, 2009 "Analysis Services could be used inside SQL Server as an invisible layer to speed up the execution of data warehouse/BI style TSQL queries" Too right, they should have done this from day one. A cube should be just another database object, its silly to require another installation. Jamie Thomson - May 22, 2009 Did Donald have a dig at SSIS in that first video? :) Awesome demo though. Summing 147billion rows in about 15secs - amazing. Chris Webb - May 22, 2009 I think he did have a dig - in fact, I wonder if there would be any applications for in-memory COP databases for ETL...? Anyway, to address your first point, although I think there should be the option of using SSAS inside the database engine, tying it too closely to SQL Server would end up being counter-productive. Installing SSAS in an Oracle shop - which happens a lot - is no longer controversial, but installing SQL Server proper, even if it was just for OLAP features, would not be acceptable for the same customers I think. Someone on Windows Live - Sept. 4, 2009 Hy! I don't understand why this Gemini demo is based on a relational database. I thought Gemini was based on a Analysis database. What's the process in the memory? All of the data of the relational database are used in the Analysis Services engine? Chris Webb - Sept. 4, 2009 I think you're getting confused here: Gemini *is* Analysis Services. In this example the Gemini cubes are being built using data from a relational database; when Gemini is released it will also be possible to build cubes from other Analysis Services cubes; but in both cases a cube is being built behind the scenes, and all the data from the original data source will be brought into this cube. To add a comment, sign in with your Windows Live ID. TrackbacksThe trackback URL for this entry is: http://cwebbbi.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!7B84B0F2C239489A!4530.trak Weblogs that reference this entry
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